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                        <title>Re: Old question: milsurp in a hunting rifle?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 00:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The &quot;datum&quot; shoulder diameter is .400&quot;. A.40 calibre or 10mm case might work better.All these tools are comparators. Comparing one case to another. If you have a &quot;zero&amp;qu...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The &quot;datum&quot; shoulder diameter is .400&quot;. A.40 calibre or 10mm case might work better.<br><br>All these tools are comparators. Comparing one case to another. If you have a &quot;zero&quot; headspace gauge, you can then compare it to your case size.<br><br>Easiest is dtil to take the rifle to a gunsmith and ask him to measure the headspace.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://systemz.online/general-discussion/">General Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>janfred</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Old question: milsurp in a hunting rifle?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2024 11:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[To measure the case length to the shoulder, you need some tools that actually index on the case shoulder or &quot;datum line&quot;.&nbsp; These cost money.A cheap trick to get similar result...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[To measure the case length to the shoulder, you need some tools that actually index on the case shoulder or &quot;datum line&quot;.&nbsp; These cost money.<br><br>A cheap trick to get similar results is to use a sized 9mmP case.&nbsp; Stick it over the 308 case mouth and measure from 308 base to 9mm base.&nbsp; The exact measurement on a fired case, a new case and a &quot;bumped&quot; case will usually tell you the story.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Old question: milsurp in a hunting rifle?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 12:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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						                            <category domain="https://systemz.online/general-discussion/">General Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Treeman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Old question: milsurp in a hunting rifle?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 12:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[These may be part of what you neehow to make your own wa! I never thought of that myself]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[These may be part of what you need<br>https://safarioutdoor.co.za/catalogsearch/result/?q=Chamber+Length+Gauges<br><br>here&#039;s how to make your own way<br>https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2018/03/how-to-craft-your-own-chamber-length-gauge/<br><br>Cleverrrrrrrrrrrr ! I never thought of that myself]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Old question: milsurp in a hunting rifle?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 12:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Its is so to say a way of finding out if you need to or not have measurements done professionally. Purchase the right gauges and measuring instruments and learn how to use themNo need for &amp;q...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><br><blockquote><br>Its is so to say a way of finding out if you need to or not have <b>measurements done professionally.</b> <br></blockquote><br>Purchase the right gauges and measuring instruments and learn how to use them<br>No need for &quot;professionals&quot;<br></blockquote><br>*****************************<br>Any idea what this would cost for 8-9 calibers, just as a once of use, to get a once off answer, even for just an answer on this one rifle once off ?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 08:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Here is another mehod to give a &quot;close enough&quot; measurement.Size 5 cases to minimum, trim to minimum spec, load a moderate charge and shoot them in a clean chamber. Now compare case...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Here is another mehod to give a &quot;close enough&quot; measurement.<br><br>Size 5 cases to minimum, trim to minimum spec, load a moderate charge and shoot them in a clean chamber. Now compare case length before and after firing.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://systemz.online/general-discussion/">General Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>janfred</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 05:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I know an old gunsmith who told me how to make a wax chamber cast. It takes time and effort, but is accurate enough to get the necessary specs.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I know an old gunsmith who told me how to make a wax chamber cast. It takes time and effort, but is accurate enough to get the necessary specs.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://systemz.online/general-discussion/">General Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Ds J</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 05:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You can make chamber casts from flowers of sulphur. Thanks what most smiths used in the olden days. It stinks to hell but I&#039;ve seen casts made using it and they look excellent.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You can make chamber casts from flowers of sulphur. Thanks what most smiths used in the olden days. It stinks to hell but I&#039;ve seen casts made using it and they look excellent.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 04:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[SAAMI chamber print can be found hereAmerican National Standards Published by SAAMICIP chamber print can be found hereCOMMISSION INTERNATIONALE PERMANENTE POUR L&#039;EPREUVE DES ARMES A FEU...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<b>SAAMI chamber print</b> can be found here<br><br><a class="go2wpf-bbcode" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="//saami.org/technical-information/ansi-saami-standards/&quot;">American National Standards Published by SAAMI</a><br><br><b>CIP chamber print</b> can be found here<br><br><a class="go2wpf-bbcode" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="//bobp.cip-bobp.org/en/tdcc_public&quot;">COMMISSION INTERNATIONALE PERMANENTE POUR L&#039;EPREUVE DES ARMES A FEU PORTATIVES </a><br><br>All sorts of different .308 reamers can be found here<br><br><a class="go2wpf-bbcode" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="//4drentals.com/product-tag/308/&quot;">4D Reamer rentals</a><br><br>All you have to do is learn how to read a chamber print<br>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Old question: milsurp in a hunting rifle?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 04:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If I use the GSC method I should be able to get a case sized to the actual specs of my chamber. Then, if I were to compare that to SAAMI specs, I should be able to calculate the difference i...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><br>If I use the GSC method I should be able to <b>get a case sized to the actual specs of my chamber</b>. Then, if I were to compare that to SAAMI specs, I should be able to calculate the difference in my own chamber. <br></blockquote><br>A case sized - and or fired in your rifle chamber will always be slightly smaller than the actual chamber<br>It needs to spring back enough to be able to be extracted.<br>The ONLY real way to know what is going on in your rifle chamber is to cast it using cerrosafe or similar low melting point alloy<br><br> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG1-J-P0IoY <br><br><br> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voMp0IQwDLU <br><br><br><a class="go2wpf-bbcode" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="//forum.castbulletassoc.org/thread/making-a-chamber-casting/&quot;">Making a chamber casting</a><br><br><br><a class="go2wpf-bbcode" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="//boltonmetalproducts.com/products/cerrosafe-bolton-160-190&quot;">Cerrosafe</a><br><br>Unfortunately no-one has been able to tell me where to get this in SA ?<br><br>]]></content:encoded>
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