https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/ AllGunStuff Discussion Board en-US Fri, 08 May 2026 14:03:06 +0000 wpForo 60 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/paged/2/#post-6422 Wed, 05 Feb 2025 13:23:08 +0000

But South Africa is a special place...I still get guys looking for parts for 3 hole turret presses



I think I've still got a box of the parts of a disassembled almost unused 3 hole turret press. Not sure how complete it is. DM me next time someone comes looking.]]> General Discussion BBCT https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/paged/2/#post-6422 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6419 Wed, 05 Feb 2025 05:12:20 +0000
What a coincidence that the old tooling broke not long after the release of the new models.


That's just another way of saying " oops, we forgot to tell you, the product was obsoleted a few years ago".]]> General Discussion 414gates https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6419 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6417 Wed, 05 Feb 2025 04:56:30 +0000 General Discussion janfred https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6417 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6416 Wed, 05 Feb 2025 01:45:54 +0000 General Discussion oafpatroll https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6416 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6414 Tue, 04 Feb 2025 23:42:06 +0000 The LM tooling broke after 30years.
Spend money on retooling for an outdated press or invest in a new press?
Simple answer to me.

I am not defending or fighting, just informing you to think hard about investing in a press that has no parts soon.

I stopped selling Load Masters as soon as parts became an issue...yes I have sold some 2nd hand ones but told the buyer the situation.

I am not Lee or their agents, just a dealer and did my best to inform everyone.

But South Africa is a special place...I still get guys looking for parts for 3 hole turret presses


]]> General Discussion DuaneWessels https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6414 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6412 Tue, 04 Feb 2025 22:52:46 +0000
In fairness, it's unreasonable to expect a manufacturer to keep producing the same spare parts for eternity, just because it sold well and a few units still remain in circulation.

With any product, sales continue till the inventory is depleted, then the product is obsoleted. The last buyers get recently obsoleted product. That's what happens.

Even with Dillon, obsolete means gone.



I'm not suggesting parts supply for ever, that's just silly. What I am saying is that a durable mechanical device should not be made obsolete within less than 10 years or so from the date of last new unit sale as it's not a cellphone or a laptop. It is not unreasonable to expect that parts supply should at least equal the design life of a device and in many industries it substantially exceeds it. That is often done at reduced or even zero margin by the manufacturer to build reputation and brand loyalty.     

The 'right' way to do this sort of thing is to stop selling new units and announce the date of the end of parts support. Parts can then be sold off at a premium if necessary till that date. In many industries third parties will buy the entire parts inventory from a manufacturer and continue the parts supply on an outsourced basis.   ]]> General Discussion oafpatroll https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6412 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6411 Tue, 04 Feb 2025 22:27:19 +0000
With any product, sales continue till the inventory is depleted, then the product is obsoleted. The last buyers get recently obsoleted product. That's what happens.

Even with Dillon, obsolete means gone.
]]> General Discussion 414gates https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6411 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6409 Tue, 04 Feb 2025 21:38:11 +0000 General Discussion oafpatroll https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6409 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6408 Tue, 04 Feb 2025 20:48:58 +0000
I've said it before and because I'm a boring old fart I'll say it again. Lee are seriously at risk of pissing off their fans like me. Since old Mr Lee passed his offspring have begun playing fast and loose by obsoleting things that their dad intended to be used for lifetimes. Their new stuff is cool and I have some of it but brand loyalty isn't built only on shiny new widgets that you have to keep replacing except where you are selling to the crowd who get a new bakkie every three years.


The Load Master was in production for 30 years.
Lee advised that it will go into legacy status in 2022.
The die for the body broke…
The press was replaced with a much better design…Andy Lee has brought some innovative ideas to the company, the Six Pack, APP, Pro4000, new design Pro1000 to name a few.
I am a huge fan of Andy’s work.

Some of the Load Master parts are not shared with any other products, those parts have run out or are running out.

Same story with the Pro1000…redesigned with a better priming and index system…stuff people have been complaining about for years.
The carrier for the Pro1000 was updated in 2017 and then updated again in 2023.
Pre 2023 carriers have run out and are not manufactured anymore.
The Pro1000 has been on the market since 1984.

The same thing happened with the 3 Hole Turret.
Lee updated it to a 4 hole and sold a conversion kit for years but those parts are also not available anymore.
The 3 Hole was Lee’s first press…
]]> General Discussion DuaneWessels https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6408 https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6407 Tue, 04 Feb 2025 09:07:55 +0000 General Discussion oafpatroll https://systemz.online/general-discussion/would-you-buy-a-used-loadmaster-now/#post-6407