A " new" 30 Cal - Reloading Methodology

A " new" 30 Cal - Reloading Methodology https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/ AllGunStuff Discussion Board en-US Fri, 08 May 2026 17:29:12 +0000 wpForo 60 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/4/#post-5878 Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:10:10 +0000

30 Nosler

0.344 = 8.7376

0.528 = 13.4112

0.534 = 12.5636

0.550 = 13.97

2.115 = 53.721

2.246 = 57.0484

2.556 = 64.9224

3.340 = 84.836

Rebated rim = no thank you
Shoulder is very tight 35 deg x 2 = 70deg
Case capacity gr H2O = 97.5 - 102

The case capacities in grains of H20 are as follows, Peterson ~97.5, Nosler ~ 99 grains, Bertram ~100, and ADG~102. These are all fired brass measurements to the top of the neck. We feel this is the best way to measure, as “usable” capacity is arbitrary. Of these options, ADG is my favorite. It is very consistent, strong, and has the largest capacity. It, combined with somewhere around .200” of freebore, will be most likely to allow you to run a 215 Berger at the 3100FPS node with H1000 and a 26” barrel.

eargesplittenloudenboomer]]> Reloading Methodology Newton https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/4/#post-5878 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/4/#post-5877 Tue, 19 Nov 2024 01:38:30 +0000

]]> Reloading Methodology 414gates https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/4/#post-5877 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/4/#post-5865 Sun, 17 Nov 2024 07:36:46 +0000
Licensing an additional barrel is not the same as a license change of caliber.

The original license and caliber remain unchanged.
]]> Reloading Methodology 414gates https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/4/#post-5865 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5864 Sun, 17 Nov 2024 06:15:35 +0000

Yes ..
However how long does the licensing process take ?
How much is a new barrel blank / cutting threads / chambering etc ?
Far as I know HOWA does not provide fitted chambered barrels - only a barrelled action ?

The licensing process is the same.

A new barrel can cost as much as you wish to pay for it.

Add about 3k for chambering and threading, even if you provide the reamer.

There's no need to buy a Howa barrel, buy a barrel blank or get a barrel made, it can be threaded for a Howa action.

Buying a barrelled action is licensing a whole rifle. If you remove the barrel to use elsewhere, that is a completely different and complicated story to just licensing a new barrel.

Yes licensing a new barrel and a change of calibre is from all the reports I have read a long wait nightmare ?
Only mentioned HOWA and barrel as that is what the action / receiver is - and the fact that they do not supply barrels
I understand about any other barrel blank from the other barrel makers
As I understand a new barrel ranges in price from approx R5,000 up to R9,000.00 even from SA manufacturers
Perhaps you know of somewhere cheaper ?
]]> Reloading Methodology Newton https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5864 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5863 Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:12:08 +0000

Yes ..
However how long does the licensing process take ?
How much is a new barrel blank / cutting threads / chambering etc ?
Far as I know HOWA does not provide fitted chambered barrels - only a barrelled action ?

The licensing process is the same.

A new barrel can cost as much as you wish to pay for it.

Add about 3k for chambering and threading, even if you provide the reamer.

There's no need to buy a Howa barrel, buy a barrel blank or get a barrel made, it can be threaded for a Howa action.

Buying a barrelled action is licensing a whole rifle. If you remove the barrel to use elsewhere, that is a completely different and complicated story to just licensing a new barrel.

]]> Reloading Methodology 414gates https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5863 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5862 Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:04:24 +0000
I am confused - not being pedantic nor smart arse, genuine question.
Barrel - action - weapon. Licence a barrel, yes, understood. Licence a barrel, yes understood. A combination of both is then a weapon . To licence a 2 nd barrel for that weapon = a two barrel weapon ?
Then if you have a action lying around, putting that barrel on it makes it a weapon for which u need a licence again.
If I break my action, I have a illegal barrel licenced as a weapon ? I can carry on with this ................

You're overthinking it.

It's simple - you can license a second barrel for a rifle.

I think that's the mechanism in place for switch barrel rifles, and the T/C variety, which you can make use of.

]]> Reloading Methodology 414gates https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5862 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5860 Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:58:58 +0000
I am confused - not being pedantic nor smart arse, genuine question.
Is it all rather convoluted or am i reading it all wrong?

I rather think the authorities consider the chambered barrel to be .. "THE weapon" ?
In the "old-days" far as I remember this was where the emphasis was - there was no noting EVERY part with a serial number / any number / mark ?
]]> Reloading Methodology Newton https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5860 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5859 Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:54:59 +0000

...Then there is the license aspect as well - and another rifle / barrel / change cartridge / calibre ...

You can license a new barrel for a rifle even if it's a different caliber, it goes on record as a second barrel for the same rifle.

Much less hassle.

Yes ..
However how long does the licensing process take ?
How much is a new barrel blank / cutting threads / chambering etc ?
Far as I know HOWA does not provide fitted chambered barrels - only a barrelled action ?

I already have a HOWA 300 Win Mag ..with a 308 barrel - thus the use of and modification of the 300WM
It would be quite possible to have multiple barrels for the same action - for future wildcats
For when I am a millionaire ,, :) ;D
]]> Reloading Methodology Newton https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5859 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5858 Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:10:35 +0000
License them accordingly, and carry the correct licenses.

Similar with a rifle, although the change of barrels is more permanent unless it is designed to do so, like the Blasers.]]> Reloading Methodology Ds J https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5858 Re: A " new" 30 Cal https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5855 Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:08:24 +0000
Much less hassle.

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I am confused - not being pedantic nor smart arse, genuine question.
Barrel - action - weapon. Licence a barrel, yes, understood. Licence a barrel, yes understood. A combination of both is then a weapon . To licence a 2 nd barrel for that weapon = a two barrel weapon ?
Then if you have a action lying around, putting that barrel on it makes it a weapon for which u need a licence again.
If I break my action, I have a illegal barrel licenced as a weapon ? I can carry on with this ................
Is it all rather convoluted or am i reading it all wrong?

]]> Reloading Methodology Treeman https://systemz.online/reloading-methodology/a-new-30-cal/paged/3/#post-5855