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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 19:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You must have better eyes than me. I took the bolt apart as much as I could and could find no evidence of a seam or thread inside or outside. Did the same with the bolt from my other rifle. ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You must have better eyes than me. I took the bolt apart as much as I could and could find no evidence of a seam or thread inside or outside. Did the same with the bolt from my other rifle. There are plenty machining marks though. As far as I am aware the bolt body and handle is a single casting or forging machined to size, just like the receiver. Even the modern Musgrave M21 bolts are all one piece as per their website.<br><br>Due to machining tolerances of the day, RSA bolts are not always interchangeable. Most knowledgeable gunsmiths when faced with a RSA action would true the action before fitting a barrel; i.e. chase the thread, square the front and lap the bolt lugs.<br><br>Something else you may need to check. If you couldn&#039;t close the bolt, it is reasonable to suspect that the gunsmith didn&#039;t either. So, to my mind, the headspace is suspect. The bolt lugs may need lapping as well to ensure proper bolt lug contact.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2025 06:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I presume the thread is fairly fine? It is a fine thread, I didn&#039;t measure what it is.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote> I presume the thread is fairly fine? </blockquote><br><br>It is a fine thread, I didn&#039;t measure what it is.<br><br>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2025 06:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Those pictures look like a screwed on collar. There is a definite undercut visible in the second picture, where the body of the bolt in is the collar, the collar overhangs the bolt body abou...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Those pictures look like a screwed on collar. <br><br>There is a definite undercut visible in the second picture, where the body of the bolt in is the collar, the collar overhangs the bolt body about half a thread.<br><br>If it was one piece, there would be no undercut, it would be flush, with no demarcation. It&#039;s highly unlikely that the the undercut was machined into a one-piece bolt. <br><br>If you remove the firing pin and look in, you&#039;ll clearly see if the body is threaded in or not.<br><br>No need to fix what isn&#039;t broken. <br><br>From a design point of view, these rifle bolts were probably made as economically as possible. Much cheaper to assemble a rifle bolt from screwed together bits than machine it from a solid block. <br><br>From a stuck bolt perspective, if you have a fired case stuck in the chamber and the collar unscrews on open, there is no way to open the bolt. The barrel will have to be removed, the case extracted, and the bolt lugs mechanically engaged and rotated out.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2025 03:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[That is definitely an aftermarket bolt. I can now understand how it could happen. And no, original RSA bolts are not threaded.Good on you for fixing a professional&#039;s mistakes. Personall...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[That is definitely an aftermarket bolt. I can now understand how it could happen. And no, original RSA bolts are not threaded.<br><br>Good on you for fixing a professional&#039;s mistakes. Personally I&#039;d try to get an original bolt. Might not look as tactical as that, but would be a lot safer in my opinion. Imagine the locktight gives again and allows the collar to rotate far enough without the locking lugs locking. I don&#039;t think that handle is strong enough to act as a bolt lug. Your idea of pinning it seems prudent.<br>20250807_105836.jpg<br>20250807_105825.jpg<div class="wpforo-attached-file"><a class="wpforo-default-attachment go2wpf-inline-attach" href="//systemz.online/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/attachments/0/7177=1200-20250807_105836.jpg"><i class="fas fa-paperclip"></i> <div class="wpforo-attached-file-img"><img class="go2wpf-inline-attach-img" style="max-width: 320px;max-height: 240px" src="//systemz.online/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/attachments/0/7177=1200-20250807_105836.jpg" alt=""></div></a></div><div class="wpforo-attached-file"><a class="wpforo-default-attachment go2wpf-inline-attach" href="//systemz.online/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/attachments/0/7177=1202-20250807_105825.jpg"><i class="fas fa-paperclip"></i> <div class="wpforo-attached-file-img"><img class="go2wpf-inline-attach-img" style="max-width: 320px;max-height: 240px" src="//systemz.online/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/attachments/0/7177=1202-20250807_105825.jpg" alt=""></div></a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2025 02:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[When the fluting was done the whole bolt would have been dismantled. The bolt knob position is critical to the correct functioning of it in the action. If the collar unscrewed then the locki...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[When the fluting was done the whole bolt would have been dismantled. The bolt knob position is critical to the correct functioning of it in the action. If the collar unscrewed then the locking lugs to collar dimension will be off. I presume the thread is fairly fine?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2025 00:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[What is a bad gunsmith. If this qualifies a gunsmith as bad, then I&#039;ve never been to a good one, because every one I&#039;ve ever dealt with gives me a rifle that I need to work on to g...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[What is a bad gunsmith. If this qualifies a gunsmith as bad, then I&#039;ve never been to a good one, because every one I&#039;ve ever dealt with gives me a rifle that I need to work on to get working properly, except Craig Clintworth.<br><br>My understanding is that all RSA action bolt bodies are threaded. If they are or not, I can&#039;t say, I have one other that looks different, it doesn&#039;t have the mauser claw, it has the same handle with threaded collar.<br><br>If yours look like this, it&#039;s threaded together. <br><br>Where the thing came from and how it came to be is not the issue, the issue is &#039;gunsmith oversight&#039;, of which this is just one example, the most recent for me. <br><div class="wpforo-attached-file"><a class="wpforo-default-attachment go2wpf-inline-attach" href="//systemz.online/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/attachments/0/7175=1198-bolt.jpg"><i class="fas fa-paperclip"></i> <div class="wpforo-attached-file-img"><img class="go2wpf-inline-attach-img" style="max-width: 320px;max-height: 240px" src="//systemz.online/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/attachments/0/7175=1198-bolt.jpg" alt=""></div></a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
                        <link>https://systemz.online/rifles-long-guns/sticky-bolt-of-the-other-kind#post-6991</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2025 11:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I am trying to get my head around how your action or bolt got so warped that the bolt binds in the action. How bad was your gunsmith?In my experience, there are generous tolerances around th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I am trying to get my head around how your action or bolt got so warped that the bolt binds in the action. How bad was your gunsmith?<br><br>In my experience, there are generous tolerances around the bolt to avoid this exact scenario. Added to this is that I have never seen a RSA bolt with a threaded bolt handle &quot;collar&quot; that needed to be locktighted onto the bolt. <br><br>Was the action screw mod done to your action?<br>Is this an aftermarket bolt?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 23:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[from the bolt collar, for a 3cm distance, over the width of the bottom of the action an area of contact, not a pointwhat is the significance ?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[from the bolt collar, for a 3cm distance, over the width of the bottom of the action <br><br>an area of contact, not a point<br><br>what is the significance ?<br><br><br>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 13:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Can you show on the photo where the bolt body was binding?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Can you show on the photo where the bolt body was binding?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Sticky bolt of the other kind.</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 10:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[None of the 4 models currently in my safes have a screw-in bolt handle This bolt handle is not screw in. The whole bolt body is &#039;screw in&#039;. This is exactly it. The bolt handle is o...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote> None of the 4 models currently in my safes have a screw-in bolt handle </blockquote><br><br>This bolt handle is not screw in. <br><br>The whole bolt body is &#039;screw in&#039;. <br><br><img class="go2wpf-bbcode" src="https://media.invisioncic.com/l87729/monthly_2023_12/IMG_9316.jpg.87b558ea7fe9c24d335277939745b5e0.jpg" alt=""><br><br>This is exactly it. The bolt handle is on a collar. The bolt body is screwed into that collar. On the underside, there is a recess in that collar that the cocking sleeve slots into. If the bolt/collar is turning against the bolt without the bolt moving, ie : screwing the bolt further into the collar, the cocking sleeve can travel fully forward with the lugs not engaged, or at the very least not fully engaged.<br><br>]]></content:encoded>
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