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(@tripodmvr)
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Found the following post on the Long Range Forum in the US. A serious warnig to all reloaders

It's with a heavy heart that I write this. I attended the Memorial Ceremony for a very good friend yesterday. I've known him for over 50 years. We hunted for years together and he taught me a lot of what I know about reloading. He was a High Master shooter and an accomplished F-Class shooter. He loved to shoot and test loads for his long range rifles. He loved working with wildcats and finding the best load to wring out the last bit of accuracy out of a cartridge.
A few days ago, there was a tragic accident that took his life. While working on a load for one of his rifles, the action blew, sending the extractor through his eye and into his brain, killing him instantly.
The reason I'm posting this is to maybe save someone else's life. This guy was as experienced a reloader as you'll ever meet. He'd been shooting and reloading for 60 years. Then this happens.


 
Posted : 12/01/2026 5:14 am
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Sobering stuff. It's always good to be reminded that we mess about with things that can kill or maim us.


 
Posted : 12/01/2026 5:42 am
 Ds J
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Posts like these cause me to check and recheck my regular loads.


 
Posted : 12/01/2026 9:34 am
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Tragic ... very sorry to hear about this terrible incident.
Another thing to remember is don't skimp on protective eye ware.
Get the best ballistic rated pair you can find and 'use" them.
So often tend to leave regular glasses on so I can see what the hell im doing & get my sight in focus.
I now use the stick on reader patches on my safety glasses.


 
Posted : 14/01/2026 10:35 pm
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Tragic ... very sorry to hear about this terrible incident.
Another thing to remember is don't skimp on protective eye ware.
Get the best ballistic rated pair you can find and 'use" them.

Hear hear! I have a pair of Revision UK military surplus ballistic specs with reading glass inserts in my reloading cupboard. If primers are involved in any way I wear them. I'm amazed at how cavalier a lot of people are wrt eye protection on ranges and in the field. Many of the people in my wingshooting club use none which I find very odd.


 
Posted : 15/01/2026 12:03 am
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Found the following post on the Long Range Forum in the US. A serious warnig to all reloaders
A few days ago, there was a tragic accident that took his life. While working on a load for one of his rifles, the action blew, sending the extractor through his eye and into his brain, killing him instantly.
The reason I'm posting this is to maybe save someone else's life. This guy was as experienced a reloader as you'll ever meet. He'd been shooting and reloading for 60 years. Then this happens.

I am sorry but this is of NO help
We who read it have NO idea what went wrong / what caused the accident ?


 
Posted : 06/02/2026 12:09 pm
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Found the following post on the Long Range Forum in the US. A serious warnig to all reloaders
A few days ago, there was a tragic accident that took his life. While working on a load for one of his rifles, the action blew, sending the extractor through his eye and into his brain, killing him instantly.
The reason I'm posting this is to maybe save someone else's life. This guy was as experienced a reloader as you'll ever meet. He'd been shooting and reloading for 60 years. Then this happens.

I am sorry but this is of NO help
We who read it have NO idea what went wrong / what caused the accident ?
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Does not matter what went wrong, he was not telling a story that needs details, he was posting a reminder that it happens when least expected, to the most experienced of reloaders.
He was saying, be more than careful, it happens and will happen again, the cause does not actually matter.
The post was about safety precaution - sounds like eye protection would have meant he would still be breathing today.


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Therefore I am me.

 
Posted : 07/02/2026 11:45 am
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Well, not sure what he did, but apparently the extractor went through his head. He was a lefty shooting a right handed rifle which put his face in the line of fire.

It is a sober reminder that pushing the envelope is not a good thing when reloading. K-N graphs exist for a reason and one overload now can mean catastrophic failure later.


 
Posted : 08/02/2026 4:43 pm
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Found the following post on the Long Range Forum in the US. A serious warnig to all reloadersThe reason I'm posting this is to maybe save someone else's life. This guy was as experienced a reloader as you'll ever meet. He'd been shooting and reloading for 60 years. Then this happens.

I am sorry but this is of NO help
We who read it have NO idea what went wrong / what caused the accident ?

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The post was about safety precaution - sounds like eye protection would have meant he would still be breathing today.

NOPE

The action blew, sending the extractor through his eye and into his brain, killing him instantly.

Safety precaution - one gathers the impression this is what he was doing ?
The ACTUAL details matter .. a lot
CIP certification requires a proof shot at something like 150,000 psi
You have to seriously overload to reach those pressures
Read abut P.O.Ackley and his tests on blowing up actions - in a controlled environment


 
Posted : 10/02/2026 1:05 am
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Found the following post on the Long Range Forum in the US. A serious warnig to all reloadersThe reason I'm posting this is to maybe save someone else's life. This guy was as experienced a reloader as you'll ever meet. He'd been shooting and reloading for 60 years. Then this happens.

I am sorry but this is of NO help
We who read it have NO idea what went wrong / what caused the accident ?

*****************************************
The post was about safety precaution - sounds like eye protection would have meant he would still be breathing today.

NOPE

The action blew, sending the extractor through his eye and into his brain, killing him instantly.

Safety precaution - one gathers the impression this is what he was doing ?
The ACTUAL details matter .. a lot
CIP certification requires a proof shot at something like 150,000 psi Proof shots are in the region of 70 to  80K psi. Primers sometimes pop at 80K psi. Serious problems will occur if 150K psi is reached.
You have to seriously overload to reach those pressures
Read abut P.O.Ackley and his tests on blowing up actions - in a controlled environment


 
Posted : 10/02/2026 1:26 am
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CIP certification requires a proof shot at something like 150,000 psi
Proof shots are in the region of 70 to  80K psi. Primers sometimes pop at 80K psi. Serious problems will occur if 150K psi is reached.

Have a peep here ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXkmcpk7Brc

Some crazy pressures there
Not sure if they got to 80,000psi ?
But
I do not think they popped any primers ?


 
Posted : 14/02/2026 12:40 pm
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Gavin is a very meticulous man and his rifles are made to very tight tolerances. That would prevent a popped primer. I still don't like this program as it is a milestone for them, but of no practical use for the ordinary hunter/reloader. It can rather be a dangerous goal for some ignoramous. 


 
Posted : 15/02/2026 4:30 am
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Popped primers happen due to primer pockets that expand from high pressure.

The point of Gavin's video was how much pressure that brand cases could take. That specific brass has a very hard case head hence they could load to stupid pressure without popping primers.


 
Posted : 15/02/2026 4:59 am
(@treeman)
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Is the following the same thing as very high pressures ? I found that even small loads, when developing pistol powder loads for rifles (S265 - .458 Win) the primer pockets aged very fast.
I have carried for years that the quicker - more violent powder was the cause. Not talking high pressure loads, just much faster burn loads - much faster.


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Therefore I am me.

 
Posted : 16/02/2026 10:19 pm
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Yes. If the primer pockets are stretching faster than normal, your pressures may be a bit on the high side.


 
Posted : 17/02/2026 12:28 am
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